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    Default Tips On Avoiding repetitiveness?

    I can make hot loops but its hard for me to make a Full Track that Sounds complete

    I know theres no magic pill, but does anyone have advice in this department?

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    Default Re: Tips On Avoiding repetitiveness?

    2 things. sample every now and then, and try and do something experimental, try and do somehting that you've never done before, turn a new knob, flip a few switches.
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    Default Re: Tips On Avoiding repetitiveness?

    - changes in the harmony
    - changes in the melody
    - FX using
    - noise using
    - changes in the rhythmic patterns

    all in all it's pretty simple, but requires a lot of time. introduce a familiar-to-the-old melody at the ending part, switch from C major to e minor or something fancy like that. a not too heavy use of FX every 4 or 8 bars makes the track way less repetitive, too. aaand as onyxmizer said: automations. modulate EVERY sound which can be modulated during the whole track (for sequences of 1, 2, 4, 8 or 16 bars, depends on style, LFOs can also be used well for that), this will make your productions sound nice and mind-blowing.

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    Default Re: Tips On Avoiding repetitiveness?

    hi there!

    You question made me smile, because I had the opposite problem.... I am always tempted to compose full songs, but I am supposed to try to produce "beats" so.

    One of the thing, even for simple beats, that worked for me, is to simply use "cuts".
    Simply play with the "mute" button on some of your tracks, and you will see that dropping some elements from time to time can be enough to give some energy and movement.

    I don't pretend to have good, non repetitive beats...
    But once I have my basic structure, the next thing I do is usually to try to make "cuts", first with the drums, and then with the other instruments.

    I always have a chorus followed by two verses, and I often add some new instruments on the second verse, so there is a progression.

    The chorus has 100% of the instruments, it sounds "full", then the first verse sounds pretty quiet in comparison, and then I introduce progressively the instruments before the next chorus.

    I guess the lfos and modulation advices are very good ideas as well.
    FrozenjaZz (fresh beats with character)
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    Default Re: Tips On Avoiding repetitiveness?

    I will definitely keep some of you advices in mind, frozenjazz. never really did the whole cutting thing, always just a tiny little bit (2 or 3 times in an 8 min trance song ain't much^^). this post sure deserves a "thanks"

    for all the non-FL9 users: maybe you find the VST effect 'Gross Beat' somewhere. could be really good, if cutting beats bores you some day it's a pretty good relooper with a lot of options to work with.

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    Default Re: Tips On Avoiding repetitiveness?

    my thing is i just do something unexpected: building up to tha hook, dropping/cuttin a part of tha beat right before tha hook, a cool sound effect getting louder n louder up to tha hook, and i always make my third verse a lot different from tha other ones. just what i do. that muting thing that Frozenjazz said is something i use a lot too.. it at least helps with maybe givin u an idea to work with

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