the diff between beat making and producing

im just a bit curious.. am i the only one out there who knows the difference between a beat make and a producer.. just interested.. could start a nice little debate.

i don't really think there's a differencen in the process of constructing the beat.. but producin goes beyond makin the beat.. there's more involved..

Exactly.
A beat maker stops when he finishes the beat.
A producer makes the beat, goes into the studio with the artist, and has his input on whats happenin.
He gives his thoughts and opinions on how the track could be changed or improved.

Producer takes the basic song/beat and turns it into a finished record...main dif.

Two major differences here. The reason it gets confused is because a lot of musicians also produced the song for the artist that are using them. A beatmaker is in the same category as a an artist, rock band, ect. A producer is hired to use his skills at putting everthing together. "Beat" makers make the beat, not the song. When you are in the studio with the artist putting the whole structure of the vocals from the artist together, adding extra effects, drop outs, mutes ect, you are in the process of producing that song. A producer can call a certain composer, tell the composer what he wants done, link him with a keyboardist, drummer, guitarist, ect, contact a specific song writer he feels can write the lyrics that will fit the artist he was hired for, shape the artist voice into how he wants that piece of art to work with the music, send that to his mixing engineer of choice, and then present the finished product. That's why it's important as beatmakers to work with as many artist as you can, so you can get your producing skills up. A beat is only a beat, not a song. A&R's don't wanna hear beats, they want to hear finished "products".

James Brown was one of the greatest producers of all time. He happens to sing and write, also.
You are not a producer until you are hired for a project, til then you are only aspiring to be one.

IM_YOUR_FATHER TIP OF THE DAY...........
You can take the music that you make, and after your done, you can tell the artist that you are working with that you want to use a real bass player instead of boo bass, you want to use a real trumpet player instead of the vst. You are the composer of that music. Do whatever you can to make your music sound right "with" that artist..........that is what you are getting paid for, not the beat alone sounding hot. Dr.Dre might hear your beat and say...."I like that, I want to use it". He uses it and adds a couple of things to it and finishes it with the vocals. He is the producer of that song.

I hate the word ghost producer..........what the hell is that?

Father summed it up quite nicely. Simply put, Producers may take beats from someone but they will tweek them to perfection which isnt always easy considering a lot of Beatmakers use cheapo programs like FLStudio which in a studio environment sounds like garbage.