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    Default Sending a rapper a beat?

    Ok I know this question is going to sound very weak, but lets say I were to send a rapper a track I did that I totally messed up on the sound volume (its wayyyyy to soft). Is there a way for the rapper to make it louder if he records over it?
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    Default Re: Sending a rapper a beat?

    Normalize To 100%
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    Default Re: Sending a rapper a beat?

    no dont normalize it .. normalizing would completely take away headroom and can even distort the beat if its that low especially if its .mp3 which is shitty quality to begin with

    go back to your source files (.flp in fl studio, .rsn in reason) and simply adjust the volumes .. if you are sending a beat to a rapper it should be tracked out (individual instrument tracks) in .wav so it can be professionally mixed

    if you dont have he original source file that the track was created on (which is extremely bad practice and unprofessional) and all you have is an .mp3 (again shitty choice) then put a compressor on it and leave compression at 1:1 so that it doesnt compress and use the make-up gain until it gets a little louder but dont max it out to 0 db else there is no headroom and remember in the future to keep your original files and .wav is muchhhhh better than .mp3
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    Default Re: Sending a rapper a beat?

    well what happened is my comp got a crazy bad virus and i lost my entire fl7 (songs sounds everything) and the only thing i had left was the mp3 or maybe mp4 of it.
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    Default Re: Sending a rapper a beat?

    probably have to toss it in a recording software fuck around with the volume levels maybe through some Eq's pan it correctly just to try & boost it a bit. It might get distorted though!

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    Default Re: Sending a rapper a beat?

    follow my advice above in the last paragraph .. i am an audio engineer and have gone to school for it that is the best way to do it with the compressor as normalizing will only make the situation worse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethal Illness View Post
    no dont normalize it .. normalizing would completely take away headroom and can even distort the beat if its that low especially if its .mp3 which is shitty quality to begin with

    go back to your source files (.flp in fl studio, .rsn in reason) and simply adjust the volumes .. if you are sending a beat to a rapper it should be tracked out (individual instrument tracks) in .wav so it can be professionally mixed

    if you dont have he original source file that the track was created on (which is extremely bad practice and unprofessional) and all you have is an .mp3 (again shitty choice) then put a compressor on it and leave compression at 1:1 so that it doesnt compress and use the make-up gain until it gets a little louder but dont max it out to 0 db else there is no headroom and remember in the future to keep your original files and .wav is muchhhhh better than .mp3
    I'm definately no expert at mastering and mixing, but I have a question about normalizing and headroom... Am I wrong if I consider normalizing as a gain?

    So if I have an mp3 of a beat made with FL studio for example.. and the highest peaks are at -6db. Let's say I normalize it to -0.5db, it's basically going to add a 5.5 db gain, right? And you're saying it would take away the headroom? Then could I just normalize it to -3 db (for example) to give it more headroom?

    And I always thought headroom was more important in the analog "world" then in the digital world

    I have a lot of trouble understanding those headroom theories lol, any help would be great
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    Default Re: Sending a rapper a beat?

    the easiest way to explain it to you is to say is it boost everything in a non-musical way and it doesnt pay attention to frequencies or anything else .. if you dont understand headroom and the noise floor and other audio principles it isnt the easiest thing to explain, there are tons of information on this on the web though if you wanna dip more into it

    also it is the complete opposite. in the digital world going above 0db will cause clipping. on an analog board most of the time it provides the music with harmonics over and undertones which create that loving analog warmth you just dont get with digital
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    ok thanks... but when I normalize things, it's usually on a "quiet" drum sample for example, and instead of boosting the volume knob on the mixer channel all the way up, I start by normalizing it first (without making it over 0 db) and then I adjust the volume. that's not a problem, right?

    Basically what you're saying is people shouldn't normalize their beat cause even if it doesn't get over 0db, there's a chance that the beat will get slightly distorted (especially if you render as an mp3), right?
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