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Rewire Tutorial: Reason, FL Studio, Cubase, Protools

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    Default Rewire Tutorial: Reason, FL Studio, Cubase, Protools

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    my post didn't survive the last forum crash but i posted it on another forum. i'm gonna be lazy and copy and paste it....

    neither, use rewire and use them both.

    i just gonna copy my tutorial on how to rewire them together from my post on CP (just use Sony ACID for sequencin', i forgot about that when i made my original post).
    http://www.crazypellas.net/producer-...-program-43318

    Quote Originally Posted by deletedbeatz View Post
    Fl 4 Is wat I use.And the best to me. but "djloekee27" how do you rewire them?
    here's how.



    or

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=pLBICChPrec

    or (from Tutorial: Using FL Studio and Reason together - DJ Passion - Dance Music Community - Forums)
    Tutorial: Using FL Studio and Reason together

    This tutorial explains how to use fruityloops and Reason together so you can use the two programs together, making fruityloops a sequencer and Reason a synth rack etc

    Setting up FLStudio as a ReWire host is not all that hard, though it may seem daunting at first. In this tutorial I'm going to explain how to use ReWire FLStudio and Reason, as well as set up MIDI-Out channels for automating parameters in Reason from within FLStudio (we will be using FLStudio as a 'Master' and Reason as a 'Slave').

    I'll also cover how you can route the various 'generator' modules in Reason (Subtractor, NN-XT etc) to their own FX channel in FLStudio's mixer for independent application of effects.

    You will want to make sure that FLStudio is registered as a ReWire client before proceeding. If you bypassed registering FLStudio as a ReWire client when you first installed it, no problem...simply go to Start menu (Windows) > FL Studio > Advanced > Install plugin version. Cancel install of the VSTi and say no to installing the DXi (unless you want to install those also). Choose 'yes' to register rewire client, and FLStudio will then be registered as a ReWire client. By using more than one application via ReWire this can provide you with new innovations of creativity.

    First thing's first...start a new project and add a ReWire channel in FL Studio (Channels > Add One > Rewired). Once it is added, the channel settings window for the ReWired channel should open automatically (see below).


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    Take a moment to become familiar with the ReWire channel's interface. If you have more than one ReWire client installed on your computer (Cubase etc), they should show up in the drop-down Client menu. Simply choose the client you want to use (in this case, Reason). Clicking the 'Show Panel' button should automatically open the ReWire client, but this may not work on all systems (be patient...it usually takes a minute to open up). If the client does not open automatically, go ahead and try opening it manually. Once Reason is open, the 'Reason Hardware Interface' should show that Reason is currently in 'ReWire Slave Mode'. If it is not, be sure that FL is registered as a ReWire client.

    Note - the only draw-back to using ReWire is that saving a project in FLStudio does not automatically save the Reason project. You must create a project in both Reason and FL Studio to save the changes you make. To keep things organized, it is a good idea to label the projects in each program the same so that they do not get mixed up with other projects. Also, keep in mind that whenever you open a FLStudio project that contains a ReWire channel, you must manually open the rewire client by clicking the 'Show Panel' button in the ReWire channel settings window. FLStudio will not automatically open a rewire client for you upon opening a ReWire project.

    So now you should have both FLStudio and Reason open, ReWired, and ready to go!

    Start with an empty rack in Reason (you may want to create your own custom rack that Reason can open with each time). In this example I am going to use the Subtractor, Malstrom, NNXT, and NN-19 modules in Reason. When using Reason as a slave in ReWire mode, it is always best to wire the devices cables directly to the Reason Hardware Interface (top of the rack). This allows us to actually send audio from each module to its own independent mixer FX channel in FLStudio. Go ahead and add a Subtractor module (Create > Subtractor - hold down the SHIFT key to keep Reason from automatically wiring the module). Below the Subtractor module, add a 'Spider Audio Merger / Splitter' module. Flip the rack over (keyboard shortcut: 'Tab') and wire it as shown:



    Sending the audio through a 'Spider Audio Merger / Splitter' enables FLStudio to recieve a stereo signal from a mono source. The audio from the Spider should then be wired directly into the Hardware Interface's first two stereo output channels. Now add a Malstrom module along with another Spider module and wire it accordingly:



    The audio from the Spider for the Malstrom module should be routed to the third output channel in the Hardware Interface. Make sure that the audio signal from only the first module is connected in a stereo patch. I'll get to an explanation of why further on in the tutorial. Now, go ahead and add a NNXT and NN-19 module and wire them to the fourth and fifth output channels (respectively) in the Hardware Interface. The following picture shows the rack with all the modules wired in the correct way:



    Now that you have the rack in Reason set up, go back to FLStudio. In the ReWire channel settings window, set the FX to a free FX channel...in this case we are using FX 1. Then, click the little light to the left of 'Multi Outputs' so that it remains 'lit' (take a look at the ReWire image above for reference). It is important that we do this, as the first audio signal from Reason is placed in the first FX slot that you assigned the ReWire channel to. Then every audio signal afterward is then sent to its own FX channel in sequence after the first. So the Subtractor will be in FX 1, the Malstrom in 2, etc...here's a picture of the mixer with the audio in action:



    Now that the routing is set up so that we can apply effects to each module in Reason, it is now time to connect FL to each module so that we can trigger and automate them from directly within FLStudio!

    When using external software or even hardware, it is necessary to use a MIDI Out channel in FLStudio to send MIDI data. We will want to add a MIDI Out channel for each synth module in Reason; in our case four. Before we do this there is one more setting we need to make in the ReWire channel setting. In the Rewire channel settings window, click on the button labeled "MIDI Options". You will get a pop-up window that looks like this:



    This window enables us to view both the assigned MIDI channels for each module in Reason as well as allows us to set a unique Port for Reason to avoid any confusion with multiple MIDI devices that may be running. Set a port number and click the 'Add/Change' button to apply the port assignment. I have chosen Port 20 simply because there are a few Ports below Port 12 that are used by FLStudio. Any Port will be fine, though it is a good idea to stay away from Ports that may be used by FLStudio or other programs. Once you have done this, write down the Port number and MIDI channels that each module is assigned to in Reason (right-side panel), and then click OK.

    Now add a MIDI Out channel (Channels > Add One > MIDI Out) and set the Port number to what you created in the ReWire channel. *Note - every MIDI Out channel that you are using for Reason needs the same Port number.* Now assign a channel number from the list that you wrote down...in this case, use the channel number for the Subtractor Module. If the settings are correct, you should be able to hear Subtractor's default patch when you click on the keyboard at the bottom of the MIDI Out channel. Excellent! Now add three more MIDI Out channels and set their Port / MIDI Channels for each of the remaining modules in Reason.

    Now that you have all of the MIDI Out channels loaded and the MIDI channels / Ports assigned, you should be able to choose the sounds you want for each module in Reason and audition them in FLStudio. "But how do I adjust volume / pan and automate parameters of these Modules?" It's not as simple as you would think, but it does make using Reason all the more fun when you can control all the parameters within FLStudio!

    The MIDI Out channels for each module automatically have the Volume and Pan parameters assigned to the Vol and pan for that module. Try adjusting the volume on the MIDI Out channel for the Subtractor, and you will see that the volume for the Subtractor changes as well. Simple! Ok...so what about the other parameters? This is where it can get tricky.

    First we have to configure the MIDI Out channel to handle the task of making adjustments to various parameters in Reason. This involves assigning CC#s to one or more of the knobs that the MIDI Out channel provides. Right click a knob (as shown),



    and choose 'configure' in the drop-down list. A new window will pop up where you can assign a name and Control number for any parameter in Reason. Reason provides a chart with the control number for each parameter of every module. To find this chart, go to Start > Propellerheads > Reason > MIDI Implematation chart. (in PDF format)



    For this tutorial I am going to link to the Filter 1 Freq slider for the Subtractor Module.



    Refer to the Reason MIDI Implentation Chart and find the entries for Filter Freq under the Subtractor heading. The CC#s should be 74. Here is an example of how you can set up this assignment:



    Be sure to label each knob according to the parameter you want to control in Reason. Once you have entered in the appropriate info, click 'Accept' and try adjusting the knob. If the CC# is correct, the slider for the Filter 1 Frequency on the Subtractor should have moved. Excellent! Now you can automate that parameter by right clicking the knob in the MIDI Out channel and choosing 'Edit Events', 'Create Auto-Clip' or by simply recording automation with playback of the project! Another cool trick is to Link the knob to a MIDI controller (if you have one) and then manually move the knob back and forth. You'll see the slider in Reason move as well!

    Once you have the settings for one module, the rest should be easy. Simply refer back to the MIDI Implentation Chart for Reason to find the parameters that you would like to control within FLStudio. This looks like a lot of work, but is actually quite simple and doesn't take very much time once you know what to do.

    Another time saver is to save the changed controls of the MIDI out channel to a preset so you can use them in other projects. Say for example a Subtractor device with its Filter Freq etc controls, instead of going through the process of looking for control numbers in every project, once you've added what you want click on the MIDI Out dropdown within its settings window and choose Save Preset as... and name accordingly for example, "Reason Subtractor". Now when you load a new MIDI out channel and want to use a subtractor as the source just choose the Reason subtractor preset you created.

    one more thing. i hope your not masterin' in FL Studio.

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    Default Re: Rewire Tutorial: Reason, FL Studio, Cubase, Protools

    how to rewire reason to cubase (it should be the same for FL Studio, i can't find a FL Studio version for cubase)
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    ReWire Reason & Cubase

    This tutorial will give you a step by step instruction guide to rewiring cubase & reason. We will be using Cubase LE & Reason 3, although Cubase SX & Reason 2.5 will work identically.
    The most important thing to remember when rewiring instruments & software packages (much like their hardware equivalents) is that, as in any syncing relationship, there must be only one master & one / more slaves. It is important to recognise that in most cases, our sequencer will act as the master, keeping everything in time & sequence.

    Once we have decided which program will be the master, we then need to go about connecting them.

    In this case, as cubase will act as our master, we will start cubase first (in the usual way, either by double-clicking the desktop icon or using the start menu icon). Once cubase has loaded, create a new project & give it a saving location (as you normally would when starting cubase).



    Now open reason by your regular method (desktop icon or start menu button).You should now see both software packages open, and reason should be displaying "ReWire Slave Mode" in the hardware interface at the top of the Reason arrangement.



    Once you have both programs open, click on the devices menu in cubase and then select "Reason". and click Mix L + R (they should be linked & therefore highlight simulaneously).





    Cubase & Reason should now run & work in perfect sync & you should be very proud of yourself!

    Additional Tips

    Think back to when we selected Mix L + R from the cubase devices menu - wondering what the Mix 3, 4, 5 etc. buttons were for? These additional inputs correlate to the outputs from reason (on the back of the hardware interface). These extra inputs allow you to route, for example, a single drum machine to its own output, then use the input options in cubase (via ReWire) to have a dedicated channel for your drum machine, completely bypassing Reason's horribly inadequate mixer.
    how to rewire reason to ProTools
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    How-To: Rewire Reason in ProTools

    1) Open ProTools and start a new session (Make sure Reason is not running when you launch ProTools)

    2) Create a stereo audio track (a stereo auxilliary track will work here too, beware auxilliary tracks load with negative-infinity volume so make sure you turn it up to 0 as a starting place before you start wondering why you don't get any sound)

    3) Switch to the Mix window (Window > Mix) if you're in the Edit window

    4) You'll see the vertical channel strip for the new track you created, you might want to go ahead and name it to avoid confusion later (2x-click on track name at bottom of strip)

    5) At the top of the channel strip you will see a light grey area with room for 5 inserts. Hit the little arrow button on the top insert there. (Make sure you're looking at the inserts at the very top, not the sends that are under it with a darker shade of grey.)

    6) Browse the fly-out menu and select Reason (Stereo) when you find it. Reason will start to launch.

    7) In the plug-in box that opens in ProTools, make sure the output is set to "Mix L-R" or something similiar instead of "no output." You can close that window.

    8) Now you're routed correctly and you can work in Reason while it outputs audio through the ProTools track you created.

    *** To use ProTools' MIDI sequencing instead of Reason's sequencer:

    1) Follow all the steps listed above

    2) Create an instrument in Reason and name it

    3) In ProTools, create a MIDI track and name it to match the instrument track in Reason

    4) In ProTools, route the output of your new MIDI track to the instrument track in Reason. To do this make sure you are able to see the in/out section of the MIDI track in ProTools (in the mix window the i/o always shows, in the edit window you may need to click on View > Edit Window > Show i/o). Click on the Output (input is on top, output just under it) and you will see a list of all the tracks available in your open Reason file. Select the instrument you just created in #1 above.

    5) In Reason, there is a led at the bottom marked as "play." Turn it off. Now Reason will not play, only ProTools will. Reason will only be used as if it were a hardware rack instrument.

    6) You can plot your MIDI sequencing/melodies/automation parameters onto the MIDI track in ProTools and it will send the info to the instrument rack in Reason... Reason will then send the actual audio out to the stereo audio track that you created in step #2 on the first section of this blog.

    7) You can create many MIDI tracks in ProTools, one for each instrument rack you load into Reason. You do not, however, need to create additional audio tracks in ProTools for each instrument, they will all output audio from the original stereo audio track with Reason plugged-in as an insert.
    how to rewire FL Studio to ProTools
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    Rewire FL Studio To Pro Tools Tutorial

    Avoid crappy conversions and record FL output directly to your Pro Tools Session. Recorded files will automatically be in the format of the session. 24 bit / 88.2k for example.

    Make sure FL is registered as a rewire client.
    Open Pro Tools and set your tempo to the song you wish to record. Create an aux track and a stereo or mono audio track.
    Now on an insert of the aux track load FL Studio. It should come up as an instrument.
    Now load your song in FL.
    In FL you can select what track you want to go to what output. You have 16 outputs. All stereo.
    For example. If you are recording a kick. Assign the kick in FL to the FL1 output. In Pro Tools the rewire FL insert is automaticall set to recieve on FL1.
    Now bus the output of the Aux track in Pro Tools to the audio track. The audio track should be mono since we are dealing with the kick. Now your routing should be as follows.

    In FL Studio:
    FL Kick --> FL1 Output

    In Pro Tools:
    FL Rewire Plugin, FL1 Left + FL1 Right on Aux Track insert ---> Bus 1 & 2 ---> Input on Audio track Recieves on Bus 1 ---> Audio Track record enabled.

    Now in FL Studio Press play. You kick should play and the signal level will show up on both the audio track and the aux track in Pro Tools.
    Now you can adjust the level to your liking to be recorded. This can be done either in FL, or using your aux track in Pro Tools if the gain in FL proves to not be enough.

    Now in Pro Tools hit record.

    Repeat this for as many tracks as you have in your song or as many as you computer can handle. To ease CPU usage remove FX plugins that may have been used in FL on you song like verbs etc. Essentially any plug-in or effect that can be re-created in Pro Tools. It is better to have the dry tracks anyway. Only record with FX plug-ins if that effect or sound is impossible to recreate.
    Even some instruments can be left out if you know how to recreate the sequence in Pro Tools.

    Quick hint: Don't bother to record your whole song straight thru if you have your drums looped or anything else looped. Just record the loop then arrange in Pro Tools.





    Now your beat is ready to be recorded to, mixed and mastered all in a handy dandy portable Pro Tools session. lol

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    Default Re: Rewire Tutorial: Reason, FL Studio, Cubase, Protools

    nice repost some valuable info i been tryin to get into reason but didnt wanna let go of the fl sequencer i completely forgot about rewire

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    Default Re: Rewire Tutorial: Reason, FL Studio, Cubase, Protools

    Umm, Sorry, newbie here, but when I rewire reason into fl, and I get a new rack and its empty, I don't seem to have the audio in device, only audio out. I get everything else, I just really want to get this to work, if someone can help me, that'd be great!
    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Rewire Tutorial: Reason, FL Studio, Cubase, Protools

    I followed the tutorial for rewiring Reason into Pro Tools. When I open a song I created in Reason, all the tracks are merged into the one track I created in Pro Tools.

    How can I get each Track from Reason to have its own track in Pro Tools?

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    Default Re: Rewire Tutorial: Reason, FL Studio, Cubase, Protools

    Quote Originally Posted by sobepmp View Post
    I followed the tutorial for rewiring Reason into Pro Tools. When I open a song I created in Reason, all the tracks are merged into the one track I created in Pro Tools.

    How can I get each Track from Reason to have its own track in Pro Tools?
    try this.
    PT Newbies How to Rewire Reason into Pro Tools
    Pro Tools, Reason, and ReWire - Form Labs NYC
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    Default Re: Rewire Tutorial: Reason, FL Studio, Cubase, Protools

    Thanx, I got it now. I have to bypass the mixer in Reason and have each output from Reason's Hardware Device go directly to it's own track in Pro Tools. A little time consuming but it works great.


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