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    As far as making a beat, no the MPC isn't neccessary. Yes you can make a hot track on the computer. I love my laptop and axiom 61 key controller. But for a live show, I would much rather have my show run off of an MPC than a computer. Computers will fuck up on you too much, especially when you're running everything for a concert type of setting, that equipment needs a lot to be powered, plus your computer has to have some pretty good shit running out of it for the sound quality to be as good as it should. Hardware is starting to be blown out the water by software, but live performance is what keeps them going, they are much more reliable than a computer. A lot of mixing is still done through a lot of hardware because a computer simply can't function at that high of a bit rate without getting choppy on you. That's why tracks have to be truncated back into 16 bit, because it is run at a much higher rate to give all the EQ effects. IT sounds better to do it that way and when you're done, bouncing it back to 16, than it does to do all the mixing in 16 bit, it's easier to size somthing down than it is to blow it up. So yes MPC's, as well as all other hardware, is still useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha Producer View Post
    I think not...I'd rather have my software and have a usb trigger finger or tha mpd16...I think MPC's are jus old-fashioned at this point...they were nice back in tha day before sequencing software...but now...they're jus really expensive fruity loops in a box...post any arguementz here
    yeah i feel ya on that, i hardly ever use my mpc anymore, I can make a beat on acid or pro tools in at least half the time, still use my mpc though jus to bang out drumlines

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    LOL I can't believe this debate is still going. If people knew more about what they were doing they would slap theirself for trading a triton or MPC for Fruity loops. You know what, run your samples on a PC at 88,200 hz or better and see what happens after you get deeper into a beat. Set everything to run in 32 to 64 bits and watch your shit start chopping up out of control. The hardware ain't neccessarily needed to make a beat, but when it comes down to the beat sounding good and being able to have a high enough bit rate and such to get a clean smooth sound, computers can't do that. Computers can't heat a sound up to make it flow better and have more life. None of this can be done by a computer alone, it takes hardware.

    This debate is like asking weather or not a reel to reel makes your tracks sound cleaner if mixed down on to it. Only those who have done it know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by optiq View Post
    LOL I can't believe this debate is still going. If people knew more about what they were doing they would slap theirself for trading a triton or MPC for Fruity loops. You know what, run your samples on a PC at 88,200 hz or better and see what happens after you get deeper into a beat. Set everything to run in 32 to 64 bits and watch your shit start chopping up out of control. The hardware ain't neccessarily needed to make a beat, but when it comes down to the beat sounding good and being able to have a high enough bit rate and such to get a clean smooth sound, computers can't do that. Computers can't heat a sound up to make it flow better and have more life. None of this can be done by a computer alone, it takes hardware.

    This debate is like asking weather or not a reel to reel makes your tracks sound cleaner if mixed down on to it. Only those who have done it know.




    Well The FACT IZ THIS........................

    MANY HIT MAKERS ARE USING SOFTWARE..............NO REALLY EVEN THE ONES WHO Use MPCS, FAMTOMS, TRITONS OR MOTIFS
    .......................

    Still End Up in Protools!!!!!!!!!!

    And Alot OF The VOCAL WORK IF NOT ALL WILL BE Done In Software.........


    And the Truth Be TOLD............................

    THE MOST COMMON HI-SPEC Audio Will BE FOUND AT 48khz 20 to 24 bit............

    With EVEN REGULAR CD STANDARD or 44.1 khz + 16 bit Still Popular........


    I KNOW LOTZ OF DUDEZ THAT OWN MOTIFS, TRITONS, FANTOMS, KURZWEILS END THE RESAMPLE THE Drums into a MPC60 or An EMUSP12.........

    JUST TO MAKE IT DURTY..............

    Honestly Somebody said HE LIKE VINYL..............WHAT Sample Rate + Bit Depth iz that...........WOW Here By a Show of Hands Needs 88khz or 96 to do HIP-HOP, RAGGA or Urban Dance Productions???????

    (NOW IF U Do POP, MODERN CLASSICAL, MODERN COUNTRY ETC MAYBE)



    Lets NOT BE NARROW..................

    I LUVE FLSTUDIO 5XXL + 7XXL.......................

    I Also LUV MPC...............Im MPC4000XL on MPC-FORUMS.com
    (Holla At Me There IF U Wish I'm Always IN The CRATE DIGGERS SECTION!!!)


    YEZ AN FLSTUDIO USER DIGGZ

    A REASON USER STILL DIGGZ

    PEOPLE LETS NOT BE NARROW.............

    THE "TRADITIONAL MUSICIANS" WOULD SAY THAT MPCS AND PC OR MACS ARE NOT FOR REAL MUSIC...........Lets not SOUND LIKE THEM...........




    NOW would i advise an mpc TO a new producer NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IS IT NO GOOD..........NOW THAT GOING TOO FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    BUT YALL MUST UNDERSTAND NOT ALL PEOPLE LIKE TO USE COMPUTERS.....

    AGAIN LETS NOT BE NARROW............................



    WHEN THE TR808 FIRST CAME OUT IT WAS A FAILURE (IT DID NOT APPROACH THE SALES THE WANTED)

    WHEN THE TB303 FIRST CAME OUT IT WAS A FAILURE (IT DID NOT APPROACH THE SALES THE WANTED)


    NOW THEZE ARE LEGENDARY PIECES..........................

    OPEN UR MIND AND GROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LISTEN ILL KEEP IT 100% WITH YALL..................



    I USED TO HATE SOFTWARE....HATE IT....!!!!!HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

    IN FACT I WOULD CLOWN DUDES USIN IT.......................

    C'MON WHAT HARDWARE SAMPLER CAN COMPETE WITH SOUNDFORGE 5 OR WAVELAB 6??????????????


    WHAT HARDWARE CAN ACHIVE WHAT LIVE 6 OR MELODYNE CAN NONE!!!!!!


    WHAT SOFTWARE WILL GIVE UR DRUMZ THAT SP12 SOUND NONE!!!!!!!!!

    AN MPC IS JUST ANOTHER TOOL..................

    I WENT TO A STUDIO IN NYC THEY HAD 2 OF EVERYTHING.................
    (I'M NOT EXAGGERATION!!!!!!!!)

    2 MOTIFS, 2 FANTOMS, 2 TRITIONS, 2 ALESIS QS, 2 KURZWEIL 2500........

    PROTOOLS LARGE 40 INCH SCREENS BUT THE DUDE DOIN THE SESSION HAD NO CLUE........................


    DID ALL THAT GEAR EVEN MATTER................

    KNOW UR GEAR MASTER IT AND LET THE NEXT MAN DO THAT ON HIS SETUP AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!




    TRUST THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    i used fl for five years before i stepped up to an mpc 2500,
    no regrets at all, once u get fluint on on this thing it is just so easy to use. u could just get urself an mpd but i just find it so handy having everything at my fingertips, dont even use the computer until mix down, even then often it dosent need alot.
    as for the price, i paid mine off 18 months interest free.
    mpc's may not be for eveyone but u should atleast try it before u hate on it.
    watever it takes to get the sound ur goin for is right, imo.

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    i agree with optiq and i agree with scizzor.

    you don't need a mpc to make a hot beat but software will not "sound" like hardware. yea, there are "tricks" to make it sound like hardware so that the average consumer can't tell the difference but musicians/producers will hear the difference (if they pay attention to it).

    this is just like the analog synth vs. virtual analog synth debate among producers (with a "trick" bein' to layer the v.a. so that it sounds "warm" like a analog synth, i heard that this trick works in reason and other software). me, i think most analog synths sux (they don't make them like they used to, not includin' moog and some other co's.) and you can get away with a v.a. now

    me, i don't want a mpc. i notice that scizzor mentioned it already... i want to get the roland tr-808 eventually. until then, i'll be usin' my software.

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    I can't really give my opinion on this, cause I never tried an MPC so I can'T tell... but it seems like when you use an MPC you get a better/warmer sound, which is what everybody wants.... and I see a lot of "anti-software" people not taking seriously those who don'T use hardware... but when you look at it, you have to work a lot more to get some good sounding results on FL then on an MPC (this is not my opinion, this is what I gather from comments I read on a lot of forums) so when you think about it, isn't that a little stupid lol? I mean, why are some people not taking seriously those who use only software (especially FL) if it's even harder to get good results on it than using hardware? (again, not my personal opinion)

    I know there's more to it, but I just thought I'd say that to read other people's opinion on the subject
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    All depends on the individual...ive used an mpc and i like the hands on feel with it and all so the cool factor of ust been able to bang out a track! ive used FL and its sweet to use too...i think it take a lil while to learn the ins and out but still heaps of fun!!! Makin' music is the key no matter wat equipment u wanna use!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missin_Link View Post
    All depends on the individual...ive used an mpc and i like the hands on feel with it and all so the cool factor of ust been able to bang out a track! ive used FL and its sweet to use too...i think it take a lil while to learn the ins and out but still heaps of fun!!! Makin' music is the key no matter wat equipment u wanna use!!!


    ^^^REAL TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    See the The Part of the Reason why people Hate FLSTUDIO USERS IS MANY OF THEM GOT IT FOR FREE OR NEXT TO FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AND There Are MANY HORRIBLE TRACKZ MADE BY FLSTUDIO USERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    BECAUSE ALOT OF THEM ARE NOT SERIOUS.......................


    LISTEN I LUV FLSTUDIO AND IF U HAVE A QUESTION ON IT I WILL ANDSERE U FRANKLY AND HONESTLY......................

    BUT LOTS OF FL users are Just Dabblers........................

    Tho' Many ARE MORE SERIOUS Its Too Easy to GET A COPY AND FART AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    NOW ITS NOT SOO EASY TO GET AN MPC to FART AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    REMEMBER ANYONE WITH A LAPTOP OR NOW EVEN A PSP CAN GET FLSTUDIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    U WILL NEED AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL UNIT TO USE AN MPC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    AND PEOPLE CAN SAY it NOT Very Expensive to Get BUT ITS ALOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN FLSTUDIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PERIOD..............


    PLUS MPCz COME WITH LIMITED OR NO SOUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    FLSTUDIO HAS SOUNDS BUT Many Are BASIC QUALITY AND CHARACTER........


    SO NOW U SHOULD BETTER UNDERSTAND WHY MPC users HATE ON FLSTUDIO USERS..................



    THEY HAVE A HARDWARE PIECE THAT COST MORE AND HAS LITTLE OR NO SOUNDS AND FLSTUDIO USERS CAN BE JUST ABOUT ANYONE WITH AN OFFICE PC, LAPTOP OR EVEN A SONY PSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    AND THERE ARE TONS OF SOUNDS + FREE VST, FREE VSTi AND DX, DXi ETC..........................

    NOT TO MENTION MP3 ETC.......................

    NOW IF U BUY AND MPC ESPECIALLY NEW U ARE GONNA FEEL Alot More Motivated To LEARN IT AND USE IT MO' Serious.....................

    NO I'M Not Sayin MOST Flstudio USERS ARE NOT SERIOUS BUT MANY DON'T HAVE TO BE.......................

    ESPECIALLY IF U GET IT FREE....................U DON'T HAVE TO BE.............


    YO I Have Heard Too Many People Say OH YEAH I DL' FLSTUDIO / FRUITYLOOPS But IT WAS JUST A TOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    I CAN NAME MOR THE 4 Current PLATINUM SONGS THAT STARTED IN FLSTUDIO........................AND PROLLY ONLY USE PROTOOLS AFTER MOST OF THE ENTIRE TRACK WAS ALREADY COMPLETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    MPC ARE DOPE........

    IN FACT I JUST SAW AND DEMOED THE MPC2500 SPECIAL EDITION !!!!!!!!!


    :001_tt1::001_tt1::001_tt1::001_tt1:

    ITS KRAZEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

    BUT I ALREADY OWN REASON, FLSTUDIO, ACID (DON'T SLEEP), LIVE, SONAR, AUDITION and YEAZ Even PROTOOLS LE..................

    SO SO I Need A MPC2500 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BUT I'D BE LYIN' IF I SAY I WONT GET ONE SOON ANY WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BUT AGAIN YALL GOTTA REALIZE SOTZ OF PEOPLE STILL DON'T LIKE COMPUTERS FOR MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LOTS REALLY STILL DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    TRUST ME ITS ABOUT CREATIVITY NOT GEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I HAD AN MV-8000 I Returned it And Dont Miss IT AT ALL..................

    MY FRIEND FROM LONDON HAS 2 GOLD RECORDS......................

    HE LUVS HIS MPC1000 I SHOWED HIM MY FX AUTOMATION IN FLSTUDIO AND HE GOT MADD.................NO MPC CAN'T COMPETE IN THAT AREA!!!!!!!!!!

    but that does not make MPC Obsolete NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    TRUST UR EARS AND UR CREATIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    NOT EQUIPMENT...........




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    I said u could go cheaper with mpd16 and I stand by that,,, but now that ive learned to make this bitch scream when I fuck her, I cant stop sticking my dick in her... lol

    If u got patience, love music, and want to make better beats faster,,, an MPC can be your best friend, if u let it


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    Now I have been using software before software was cool to use. People would look at me as if I was use a $50 keyboard. Now that software has advanced no you don't need a MPC. C'mon look at Battery 3. You can do all that shit MPC does. Dont get me wrong the MPC is a great hardware and sometimes it would be great to just turn on a piece of hardware and make tracks. Its not a matter of right or wrong. Some people are more computer geeks and some are more hands on. Bottom line I dont give a dahm what you use it come down to skillz. I could use a $100 keyboard and still make fire tracks.

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    To Me The MPC has a great thick and warm sound unlike fruity loops and other softwares. But I prefer to use software over an MPC because I work faster with them and usually never have complications with them. An MPC does make you look serious about your craft. AJ Calloway (From 106 & Park) told me if you want to be sucessful........fake it until you make it. Thats means your image is everything. An MPC to a producer is like a suit to a business man.

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    Been on both sides of this fence. First piece was an ASR 10. Used the MPC 2000XL and the 4000, had the Triton, last piece was the Roland MV8000. Learned FL, moved to Reason and the Axiom (hence the s/n). But I learned all those so no matter what studio I step in, I'm good. I cut down my setup because I wanted a compact, portable thing I could throw in a bag. (Laptop, controller, MBox.) What it all boils down to, you could have a million dollars worth of gear or 50 grand worth of software,but if you're not serious enough to learn it what's the point? Your music will still come out half-assed. Some people will ALWAYS love the MPC. Some will always love FL, their Triton, Motif, etc. It's all about what you're comfortable with. But the MPC is here to stay for a good while.
    Last edited by axiom25; 03-12-2007 at 3:07 AM.

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    its a lot easier to make ur drums on an mpc and sampling is way easier with the mpc although a hot track can be made on software as well. i use an mpc 200xl and fruity loops 7 both of those together u can do anything u need to make a hit

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    Chances are ya favorite producers use computers to polish off they sound, Blaze, Timbo, Polow even Prince rely on computers to get that finished sound. You paying a high out of pocket cost to get a quality MPC or a quality high-powered computer workstation so to say that computer is obsolete in contrast to MPC is far fetch.
    The output quality of a beat is relative to the power of the machine you using which is why this debate on MPC verses software is irrelevant. MPC is hardware so it relies on software to run its programs, just like computer software like FL requires a strong computer processor to efficiently run its program.
    The better quality shit you use, the better sounding result you will achieve quality speaking.

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