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    So I get ready for a 72 hour studio session, by myself, not being disturbed just me and my music. Out of that 72 hours I got three beats finished. The beats are to my liking, honestly some of my best work because I took my time with each beat. but I'm upset with the grind. On another I'm working on a track dump roc nation artists and young money artists hopefully I land my first placement soon. I'm eager to hear other producer's opinions. What do you think is better? Long studio sessions with maybe one beat to your liking, but plenty of beats to rowk with? or is it better to have 3 beats mixed and mastered to your liking and perfection after a 72 hour studio session?

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    that's an easy one. 3 beats mix and mastered ready to go.

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    Yea I slowly but surely learned that this weekend... I can do fifty beats like its nothing but, Its bittersweet for me though, because having that many beats and only 3 or four of them in my opinion are "hot" is sometimes crazy frustrating

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    having your beats mastered is always a good thing...
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    There are so many beats out there that it's pointless to have a bunch of mediocre beats. It's better to make a few beats that you're completely happy with; those are the ones that are going to get you noticed.

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    If you're sending tracks for a listening session...It's always good to have atleast 10 tracks...not too many, but it's enough. My opinion...place the tracks you think are your best at the beginning. If you have tracks with somewhat of a long intro make a shorter version.

    As for mixed & mastering tracks...it's not a bad thing to do, but a really good mix would be suffice. The artist, production company or label will have the track mixed and mastered over anyways, so why spend the money on getting it mastered?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Desimnyc View Post
    If you're sending tracks for a listening session...It's always good to have atleast 10 tracks...not too many, but it's enough. My opinion...place the tracks you think are your best at the beginning. If you have tracks with somewhat of a long intro make a shorter version.

    As for mixed & mastering tracks...it's not a bad thing to do, but a really good mix would be suffice. The artist, production company or label will have the track mixed and mastered over anyways, so why spend the money on getting it mastered?


    Good Luck!
    I battle with this myself. I get what you're saying about the label having it mixed again, but my gut tells me a 'so-so' mix will take away when it comes to presentation. Think about some of the best beats of the last few years, and it's hard to believe they would be as banging if the original mix down wasn't at least semi-professional. Think about the thumping bassline or that kick that just KNOCKS. Attribute that to the mix.

    I was going to just stay with a regular mix by myself, but I hear if you're doing showcases or battles, those cats go the distance to have a quality mix. It really depends on your confidence that you have a hit track. I have about 50 beats. I've gotten about 5 or 6 mixed because I feel those are my go-to's right now. THEN you can let somebody hear your lesser quality mixes because you've established that your music sounds good with a good mix. All about first impressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phortune500 View Post
    I battle with this myself. I get what you're saying about the label having it mixed again, but my gut tells me a 'so-so' mix will take away when it comes to presentation. Think about some of the best beats of the last few years, and it's hard to believe they would be as banging if the original mix down wasn't at least semi-professional. Think about the thumping bassline or that kick that just KNOCKS. Attribute that to the mix.

    I was going to just stay with a regular mix by myself, but I hear if you're doing showcases or battles, those cats go the distance to have a quality mix. It really depends on your confidence that you have a hit track. I have about 50 beats. I've gotten about 5 or 6 mixed because I feel those are my go-to's right now. THEN you can let somebody hear your lesser quality mixes because you've established that your music sounds good with a good mix. All about first impressions.

    What you're saying is true a good mix is always a good look. I've heard hot tracks from people with no good mix or no mastering and the track is still hot.

    A good mix and mastering can make any beat sound better...just listen to some of the bullsh*t that's getting played on the radio!

    I guarantee you that if someone on CP presented the same exact track as Tyga's song Ayy Ladies most people on CP would say it's an ok track, but put a well known rapper on it and a mix and master and people start dancing to it. (even though I still think it's a wack track)

    Now my opinion I think the track from Young Jeezy's track I Do would be hot if I heard it with no mix and no mastering.

    A Hot track is a hot track with or without a professional mix and mastering, but wack tracks can definitely benefit from a mix and mastering.




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    DUDE...I try to tell my girl that sh-t all.the.time. Hell, forget Ayy Ladies. Listen to Rack City!

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    Yes another wack ass track...if you or I presented that track to our peoples they won't even want to hear that shit!!!




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    Why do you think I've been begging and pleading for a TALENTED artist on CP to step forward so I can make a mixtape with them...smh

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    Quality trumps quanity! Who has patience to sit & listen to a bunch of wack or half baked beats to hear 3 hot ones? The more work you put into the beat the better off you'll be. Kepp doin ya thing!

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    @ 500

    Good luck with that search!!! My experience with MC's and rappers is...all the good ones are looking for some type of miracle to happen...like...Puffy gonna drop out the sky into their living room and sign them to a multi-million dollar deal!!! And the ones that are not to good will work their ass off!!!

    I have a nephew that just got home and he has close friends of his in the music and clothing business. All they are asking from him is to send a demo and they will give it to someone that would be able to make things happen...I can't even get this guy into the studio to make a demo...this is one of the reasons I've stopped making music.

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    Not So Good MC's = Good work ethics and a possible deal (it's crazy man!!!)




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    Quality is definately better than Quanity....Depending on the kind of music, mastering can be really important....Heavy Bass music (grime, dubstep, glitch hop, dirty south beats) will all require some mastering for your bounce out if you want it to sound anything like it did when you made it. Sub bass will definately not punch and sometimes thats a huge part.....

    hahahah so true Desimnyc! Ive worked with countless people in Philly who either show up drunk or they just try to freestyle their bars....Its exactly how you said....They all have watched the Tupac Documentaries, where Tupac talks about when he enters the studio...He just wants to rap and thats it...then he can leave....and if the producers want to play with different sounds for instruments, thats their world and doesnt involve him....Majority of the MC's Ive worked with have almost all had this mindset....Ive even thrown some Open Mic nights and Hiphop club parties with performances and you can even get them to promote themselves!

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    I think all of ya'll got good opinions. I like what 500 said about that label will master the tracks for you. Cuz I've sent a shit load of beats to major artists like MMG,Travis porter, T.I. and didn't get the placement. I was just wondering was audio engineering work costing me placements, Then again its always a possibility that artist thought the beat was wack or just not what they we're looking for. Honestly I'm gonna keep on submitting my tracks to sound dumps and keep producin for the up and comers until I land my first placement.. Does anyone else have a major placement under thier belt yet?

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