Hook/Melody Methods ....

Hey guys, well im a new producer and you can check out some of my stuff @ myspace.com/lyrikalbeats and i mean "new" been like only 4-5 days since ive been learning fruity loops. Only thing i have trouble is just creating a good melody you know. I have every sound/vst you can name such as "Hypersonic, Sampletank, Predator, Orchestral, Soundfonts and etc...." I have everything, its just applying those sounds and creating something! Anyways, can someone tell me the correct method of making a proper melody meaning.. how long the melody should be ( hook ) .. and other stuff. For example if i just create a outside melody for like say 5-7 bars long, and i wanted to create a "OVERLAPPED" hook over it and just add a diff layer of sound .. how would i know if the melody would go with the drums/kicks mhm. Also, just in general.. how to make a good, decent melody. Only things i always use is just make my note length .. long and just change it from high pitch to low pitch and just create a lil piano sequence over top of it and i want to learn more. What other ways do you guys make your melodies? For example length of the notes, how many notes you put in between the bars and so fourth.. Do you usually have them short, long.. patterns such as a staircase, or just like this>>

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as you can see its just a lil example i made, but i jsut want to know how otehr people do it, so i can take this a step further you know thanks ! i appreciate the feedback

some quick tips-

learn music theory so you understand how notes and keys work

learn timing basic songs are 4/4

until you understand music keep your melody simple

listen to your favorite songs and try to practice them

hooks are normally 8 bars

have fun wid it

good luck

Co fuckin sign!

That's the first thing u should do.

co sign ? :/

bars are almost always EVEN rarley ODD on the hook. do what feels natural. some people start with the KICKS & SNARE then they work the sounds around that or the other way around. it depends what type of beat you want to make. try just making a simple grand piano melody, add pads, then put some kick & snare. after that add some hi hats. add shaker's or any perc if you want. make that as your chorus. then break it down & take some stuff out & that can be the verse. just mess with it to you feel what you want. & remember make what you want not what everyone else is doing (this is what establishes a true original producer)

Co sign= agree

Learn music theory first.

if your gonna do hip hop..verse is usually 16 bars and hook is 8, but hey its your beat do what you want...like they said learn how notes work first..it really makes things so much easier