Crazy Pellas  
Home Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Crazy Pellas > Talent > Home Made Beats > Producer Talk
Reload this Page

Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For


Crazy Pellas Forums
Sign up for an account!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#1)
 
T-1's Avatar
T-1 is Offline
Member
T-1 is on a distinguished road
 
Posts: 55
Talent Points: 1
Total Thanks Received: 8
Join Date: 20 Feb 2007
Default Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 20-02-2007, 02:49 AM

check it out MTV News | Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For


does that mean we have to learn how to play the guitar, violin, drums, etc. so that we can use them?

Last edited by T-1; 20-02-2007 at 03:00 AM..
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#2)
 
Illmatic's Avatar
Illmatic is Offline
Junior Member
Illmatic is on a distinguished road
 
Posts: 24
Talent Points: 0
Total Thanks Received: 4
Join Date: 24 Jan 2007
Location: Long Beach
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 20-02-2007, 03:03 AM

hasnt it been like that for years, back when eric b was sampling james brown and preemo sampling kool and gang back it 87 and 89?
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#3)
 
k.a.o.s.'s Avatar
k.a.o.s. is Offline
Registered User
k.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to all
  Send a message via Yahoo to k.a.o.s.  
 
Posts: 330
Talent Points: 20
Total Thanks Received: 270
Join Date: 05 Jan 2006
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 20-02-2007, 03:10 AM

its always been like that, only they are saying that you have to pay for eveything (thats B.S.) If somebody samples a track off some little indie label and gets permision. they would most likely get it for free, but major labels will charge the hell out of your a**. basicaly its a way for artists to protect theyre music and labels to make extra $$$ by sueing the sh** out of people
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#4)
 
T-1's Avatar
T-1 is Offline
Member
T-1 is on a distinguished road
 
Posts: 55
Talent Points: 1
Total Thanks Received: 8
Join Date: 20 Feb 2007
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 20-02-2007, 04:50 AM

so is it legal to use kanye, pharrell, etc., drum kits n stuff?
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#5)
 
EDIK AMIN's Avatar
EDIK AMIN is Offline
Registered User
EDIK AMIN will become famous soon enoughEDIK AMIN will become famous soon enough
   
 
Posts: 344
Talent Points: 76
Total Thanks Received: 45
Join Date: 27 Feb 2006
Location: USA
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 20-02-2007, 05:06 AM

thats why i never messed around with samples to begin with.....
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#6)
 
-TeGo-'s Avatar
-TeGo- is Offline
Registered User
-TeGo- has much to be proud of-TeGo- has much to be proud of-TeGo- has much to be proud of-TeGo- has much to be proud of-TeGo- has much to be proud of-TeGo- has much to be proud of-TeGo- has much to be proud of-TeGo- has much to be proud of
  Send a message via AIM to -TeGo- Send a message via MSN to -TeGo-  
 
Posts: 626
Talent Points: 108
Total Thanks Received: 435
Join Date: 04 Oct 2006
Location: H-Town, VA
Age: 19
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 20-02-2007, 06:21 AM

^^^haha, co-sign....
I use dem refills now..
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#7)
 
All bout money's Avatar
All bout money is Offline
Elite Producer / Homemade Beats Moderator
All bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond reputeAll bout money has a reputation beyond repute
 Send a message via ICQ to All bout money Send a message via MSN to All bout money Send a message via Skype™ to All bout money  
 
Posts: 1,602
Talent Points: 653
Total Thanks Received: 4,658
Join Date: 06 Jun 2006
Location: Gutta ville Wtby CT
Age: 20
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 20-02-2007, 01:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by T-1 View Post
so is it legal to use kanye, pharrell, etc., drum kits n stuff?
Maybe the samples that are more than 3 seconds long but the drums, nah because those dont even be the actual drums i have so many kits with the exact drums that would be dumb as hell to sue someone over a drum lol.
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#8)
 
T-1's Avatar
T-1 is Offline
Member
T-1 is on a distinguished road
 
Posts: 55
Talent Points: 1
Total Thanks Received: 8
Join Date: 20 Feb 2007
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 20-02-2007, 10:36 PM

ya it would
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#9)
 
PHAT-DUB's Avatar
PHAT-DUB is Offline
The picture of moderation
PHAT-DUB is a glorious beacon of lightPHAT-DUB is a glorious beacon of lightPHAT-DUB is a glorious beacon of lightPHAT-DUB is a glorious beacon of lightPHAT-DUB is a glorious beacon of lightPHAT-DUB is a glorious beacon of light
 
Posts: 337
Talent Points: 12
Total Thanks Received: 20
Join Date: 18 Nov 2006
Location: West Coast BC!
Age: 25
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 21-02-2007, 03:52 AM

Samples-I would be pretty damb sure-refers to samples, of more than three seconds from a song, not individual tones such as drums, strings, horns, ect.

You can't copywrite the tone of a sound, only a string of tones. That means that if you use the exact same sound from another atrists track-but in a different melodic interpretation, its not illegle/where as, if you use a slightly different sound, but copy another artists, melodic line that is illegle.

Thats my overstanding anyhow.
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#10)
 
innaspace's Avatar
innaspace is Offline
One Bad MuthaShutYoMouth!
innaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond reputeinnaspace has a reputation beyond repute
 
Posts: 2,367
Talent Points: 69
Total Thanks Received: 3,308
Join Date: 18 Oct 2005
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 21-02-2007, 04:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by EDIK AMIN View Post
thats why i never messed around with samples to begin with.....
Your favorite rapper's favorite song uses a sample

Shit, your favorite song probably uses one too :thumbup:
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#11)
 
k.a.o.s.'s Avatar
k.a.o.s. is Offline
Registered User
k.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to allk.a.o.s. is a name known to all
  Send a message via Yahoo to k.a.o.s.  
 
Posts: 330
Talent Points: 20
Total Thanks Received: 270
Join Date: 05 Jan 2006
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 21-02-2007, 04:39 AM

90 percent of producers sample tracks, wether it be a small amount that most dont even really notice or the whole melody based on it. pretty much the RIAA is out to kill underground dj's and remixes all together (look at DJ Drama for example). they put filters on myspace to block unauthorized music, this will soon be on soundclick.com (which they just deleted my account for), rapidshare and alot of the popular upload sites.

they are also trying to stop the distrubution of acapella's as well, but they are not likely to go after small fish like us. They are more worried about people making a profit by using other peoples sh**, so if your selling sampled beats you might want to try and get authorization (never hurts to ask, and who knows they might hook it up for free). Or if you get popped you can always plea ignorance.

Unless your making money off it they will most likely just tell you to stop doin that sh** and keep an eye on you for a little while, look at all the sites that recently got turned in for it ( thanks to beef and people selling eachother out ). nobody got sued. they shut down for a week or so and now they are back up.

Basicaly if you do it / get caught and they say stop, then stop. I just keep it as a hobby, but if somebody puts a little $$$ in my face then I wont turn it down, I'll just suggest that they get the samples cleared before using it
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#12)
 
T-1's Avatar
T-1 is Offline
Member
T-1 is on a distinguished road
 
Posts: 55
Talent Points: 1
Total Thanks Received: 8
Join Date: 20 Feb 2007
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 21-02-2007, 04:44 AM

aight, thanx for clearing that up. I'm brand new to producing so I didn't wanna start wit any bad habits.
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#13)
 
Young Ef's Avatar
Young Ef is Offline
HOTTEST UP & COMING DJ!!!
Young Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond reputeYoung Ef has a reputation beyond repute
  Send a message via AIM to Young Ef Send a message via Yahoo to Young Ef  
 
Posts: 11,264
Talent Points: 458
Total Thanks Received: 7,309
Join Date: 26 Nov 2004
Location: EAST SIDE BANGA LBLOCK SOULJA!
Age: 23
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 02-03-2007, 08:15 PM

if your music contains a sample that you no about then you you cannot sale or distrubute the product so u can make all the sample beats you want as long as it is practice

now as far as obtaining the licence you have to get the premission from the lable or the owner of the master you wish to sample

and after 75 years you dont have to pay for shit so tha older your sample tha better off you are
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
Old
  (#14)
 
EDIK AMIN's Avatar
EDIK AMIN is Offline
Registered User
EDIK AMIN will become famous soon enoughEDIK AMIN will become famous soon enough
   
 
Posts: 344
Talent Points: 76
Total Thanks Received: 45
Join Date: 27 Feb 2006
Location: USA
Default Re: Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For - 02-03-2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by innaspace View Post
Your favorite rapper's favorite song uses a sample

Shit, your favorite song probably uses one too :thumbup:
no doubt - most of my favorite songs have samples... i was talking about my beats tho
  
Say 'Thank You!' for this post.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
++ Akai MPC1000 Full Review wunthugspassion Reviews 11 06-06-2008 12:51 AM
Snoop Dogg's Hip Hop Fan Site Managed By Paid Inc. wunthugspassion Hip Hop 0 23-05-2006 04:49 AM
Akai MPC 4000 Full Review wunthugspassion Reviews 0 17-04-2006 12:10 PM
++ Akai MPC3000 Full Review wunthugspassion Reviews 0 17-04-2006 12:06 PM
Akai MPC2000 Full Review wunthugspassion Reviews 0 17-04-2006 11:58 AM



Recommended: MusiciansFriend | GuitarCenter | PSSL | zZounds | Amazon | MixUnit


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com | Customized by: Crazy Pellas

All content is protected by the copyright of their respective owners,
CrazyPellas™ name and similar are trademarks of CrazyPellas.net