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Default chopping samples - 09-07-2006, 08:50 PM

hi i'm pretty new to this site and was wondering if there are any tutorials
on chopping samples or the best wat to do this
i use fl studio 6
  
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Default Re: chopping samples - 09-07-2006, 09:24 PM

i use adobe audition to chop samples (it's easier and u can zoom in more)
  
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Default Re: chopping samples - 10-07-2006, 01:33 AM

yea i definitely wouldnt have FL as my first choice for sample chopping.
although the slicer is a great way to play back samples and chop up live with your keyboard, since it automaticly sets points acording to the waveform.

im actually choppin up some samples right now. spent $75 on records today so im juzt playing them through my interface catching what i like and recording to Sony Sound Forge. chopping and editting there. i'll move to FL later when i feel its time to get the beat done.
Sony Acid is good for chopping samples too (i like the beatmapping), thats what i used before i discovered Soundforge.

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Default Re: chopping samples - 10-07-2006, 02:36 AM

um, i'd use the FL Slicer, or adobe audition
  
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Default Re: chopping samples - 10-07-2006, 06:18 AM

Well.....I can type up a quick summary of what I do.

Definately recommend Cool Edit Pro (Adobe Audition).

Download the song you want. Or, if you're doing it old school, get some old records and get the songs off there. Then chop the shit out of the track. Normally I try to grab around 20-30 chops from a song. I recommend creating a new folder and saving all of your original chops there. Then, create a new folder in that one to save all of your "tweaked" chops. That way, should one of your chops be off, or just plain suck, you can go back to the original.

Next you gotta find a tempo decent enough to fit the samples without distorting all of them but is still a hip-hop tempo. Normally that's gonna be between 80-95 bpms. So, if your original song is a more fast paced song, you'd probably be better of going with the 90 range and if it's a more slower song, the 80 range.

Load up all your chops and stretch and/or compress them until they all fit the tempo of the track. This has all got to be done by ear. Normally I'll have FL6 with a simple drum pattern running in the background and I'll be fucking with my chops with Cool Edit. Play out the chop like how you'd actually play it in the song. Make sure it starts and ends at the right time. Oh, one thing, make sure that if you have to stretch the chop, it doesn't get too distorted. Otherwise it'll sound horrible. Most people then "chipmunk" the sample. That is, raise the pitch. This also may distort the chop alot. You'll normally run into alot of trouble when you're trying to sample some already high pitched stuff like strings. Now, all you've got to do is go back and do the same thing like 29 more times to your other chops! :D

I also highly recommend EQ'ing out the kicks, bass, and/or snares. These will be nothing but a pain in your side if you dump the chops into FL w/o doing this. They'll start to bunch up and you'll hear horrible background noise. Use the Graphic Equalizer that comes with Adobe Audition. Take out most of the lows and raise some highs. This way, when you use the chops in your song, your kicks, snares, and bass will easily cover up the originals.

All together, depending on the amount of chops you used, and how hard you worked over fitting the samples, this should take around an hour. (Or at least for me it does :D )

Ok, so once you've gotten all 25-30 of your fav chops from the song, fit them to the tempo just how you like them, had your fun with the pitch, and fucked around with the EQ.......It's time to kick your chops into FL.

This is the easy part. Not gonna go into any detail. Just dump them all in and fuck around with them all. Start out with a basic pattern and just keep playing on top of that. See what sounds good. It's almost like putting together a puzzle.

Sorry if this is hard to understand. I made all this up in like 5 minutes. If you need anything clarified, just ask.
  
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Default Re: chopping samples - 10-07-2006, 06:53 AM

Sample chopping is easy on my MPC1000. hahahaha
  
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Default Re: chopping samples - 10-07-2006, 12:50 PM

Lucky Bastard......:D

Well, to us that are less fortunate, the cheap man's method works pretty decently.
  
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Default Re: chopping samples - 10-07-2006, 03:15 PM

Use Recycle if your sampling into Reason.
  
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Default Re: chopping samples - 10-07-2006, 08:27 PM

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Default Re: chopping samples - 10-07-2006, 08:30 PM

agent orange dropped some nice info.

after the beat i just finished up in FL6 i gotta say that the fruity slicer with a good midi controller keyboard is a wonderfull thing.
i thought i was done and satisfied with what i chopped in Sound Forge. but as i was dropping the beat i loaded the whole cut i sampled off the vinyl into the slicer and just started playing around with my keyboard to find some great horn sounds. from there i dragged the individual sounds i found while i was playing around to the sequencer so id have better pitch control and dropped some bakground horns and stuff to give the beat that touch...
  
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