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    Default If you have or are intrested in starting your own lable

    I learned a few helpful tips if you are intrested.

    First thing First get some sort of logo even if you plan on changing it in time get a logo because you can make your paper work look more professional with a logo on it and it will be easier for you to do poor man copywrites with.

    - A poor mans copywrite is a way of copywriting your music based of proving that you yourself actually wrote or created the product that you are trying to copywrite. All you do is package it up like your were mailing it out and mail it to yourself. It will have dates and everything and shipping info as to prove when it was created and it will have all of your stuff to prove it is copywritin and you may use this in court. It isn't suggested if you have the money to pay for actual copywrites. You can copywrite 10 things under 1 title all you have to do is prove creation. (DO NOT OPEN IT AFTER YOU SEND IT)

    You should also get stickers like bumper stickers any kind of sticker with your logo or website and contact info on it. People are curious stick that shit up everware you go you no how when u walk down the street and see flyers stick your shit up right next to it. Stickers can't be moved only scratched off and it will take a long minute so use thick stickers as a way of promotion. People are curious and when u get off of the ground you will have 100's of people buying your shit just because they want to no who you are.

    Get your hands on some legal documents read them over and understand the ins and outs of a contract and what you as the owner of the company must do and handle basically learn the business from what you already know into the deeper aspect. Precentages signing people A and R work money distrubtion marketing all of it learn it all

    invest in studio time even if you have a great home studio invest in studio time so that your project is radio ready in case you get signed or a dj wants to play it. They wont be able to play something that isn't professonally mastered in a studio.

    send your music and press packages of photos from offical photo shoots bio info cards and web address to radio stations local djs and underground magazines as well as underground radio shows

    and last but not all....shows shows shows do shows!

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    poor man copywriting lol they taught my cousin that in college for music production....good tips actually...u should note that u might wanna send in your actual contracts to a lawyer so he can look over them n make sure u outlined everything in it before sending it to the artist....its costly but saves u from fucking yourself over....like u can read as many legal documents as u want you still wont be a lawyer

    but ye good info read some shit i didnt know about
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    and i could teach you a lot more if you would stop taking every thing i say to you as me hating you. I use to want to help you but thats off topic

    yeah make sure you have a lawyer read your documents over but i will be honest with you

    A entertainment laywer has to be paid. And they are not cheap you may be able to find some cheap little lawyer who wouldn't mind reading over it but your best bet is to get a lawyer that is in the business because they know all of the loopholes and would no exactly what to put in the contract.

    If you are serious about moving units and actually signing people then your first contract should be very simple straight to the point and in plain english. This way it is very clear as to what point you are getting across. If you have points that you want reached for example

    people signed to my label recieve payment through pay-pal. So i had to make sure in my contract i provide information about pay-pal what pay-pal is how it works and what you need to do to get one. I have to make it clear that you need a checking account and if your checking acount is -100 dollars and we pay u 50 dollars for whatever reason ur account will read -50 if u dont want ur music money mixed with that money u would need seprate accounts.

    basically any point you raise in your contract you will need to have facts about it.

    A few things in the clickity klank contract are things that should be in all contracts precentages. i have it broken down in it that the artist gets 60% of the album sales the label gets 19% and the founding members of the teamstaz get 7% each i broke that down i exsplained how it works

    i broke down what we will pay for if u sign with us but we also made it clear that you will be responsible for recooping payment...

    enough bout my contract but if this is what u want to do contracts are important

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    Default Re: If you have or are intrested in starting your own lable

    thanks for the info

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    no problem

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    good advice, i knew a guy who invented things and he would always send the blueprints 2 himself usein that copyright method

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    Some new shit im gettin up on is this promotion and marketing shit. That gets you cheap or free distrubtion.

    A lot of people don't really no what distrubtion is but what it actually is its when you get your music in a store. Depending on your distrubtion you will get a whole shelf with pictures and shit kinda like when you go to sam goody and they have tha displays for certain artist. You gotta pay major money for that shit and to have your album sitting on tha shelf. You have to also have a strong enough buzz that when you put it out *****s gonna go to those stores and get em cause they will take your shit off tha shelf if its not selling. Because to music stores your space on da shelf can be another album that is moving crazy units, some old school jay-z or somethin that is still selling.

    When it comes to distrubtion you gotta get your fans up hard heavy in a major way. You have to do a whole bunch of shows my advice is fuck talent shows do your own shit. pay your city to rent out a park. Have a cook out you can rent a stage get speakers and rock charge *****s 5 dollars to get in. Have drinks food charge for that shit but rock da show. Have a good time you will get hot locally if you continue to do shit like that frequently

    then drop your albums in tha winter when u can't do shows cause its cold. Thats when you fuck wit tha open mic shits in different towns and shit. Your buzz has to be to the point *****s is talking about you before you even consider distrubtion so if you wanna make money off your projects without that you gotta be on da street harrrrrd

    flyers posters t-shirts mixtapes all sorts of em da net stickers cards websites contacts everything its a fucking grind doggies

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    Dubs you do know your shit ma... Never had no doubt in ya... But i do have to say something....


    I went to school in Richmond for 3 years in Recording Studio and Productions.... I was in a studio for bout 80 hours a week learning the industry.... Lawyers are you Key... They will help you Push the shit.... Bc the are the ones that know the " looopeholes"........ PK studios where Madd Skillz Does alot of his work is where I was at all them weeks for 3 years.... Learned alot just wish I had the money to get back to it....

    I now have artist " GREAT " Artist that can really make some money and i need to be behind a board getting this shit straight with Crackpipe..... & Dubz... One day Ma we going to make this happen... Im telling you all you need is my ear im good as gold.....I know anything and everything you need to know on how to make a BOMB studio.....and thats to key to anyone making and RECORDING any music.....well my bad yall for going off... ill holla peace....

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    Dont forget using charity dubz, hold a charity event and thats free air play on radio

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    hey guys keep the info coming man...im very interested in all this...Im from Australia and starting a rnb/hip hop label is damn hard here, especially geting recognised...i want to know absolutley everyhting from start to finish.

    im currently getting a professional logo done and also business cards, but i dont know how to start off in this business...is it/isnt it possible to run a label on your own at the start? IF your label starts booming then should i start employing ppl into the business? How would i come about all that? etc etc

    Basically every single little detail would be great and Efdouble, u done a mad job with this thread! Thanks man!

    Also any websites would even be good with info...Efdouble do u have a website by any chance? Thanks.

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    haha... don't do this.... [not implying that you would]

    the guy that runs ecko had a street team go around and spray paint little logos [about the size of your palm] on whatever as promotion for his new game, which is about tagging by the way....

    it worked as far as promotion, cause i now know what he's promoting, but it's probably costly for people starting their own shit. ecko had to pay to clean everything that got tagged.

    good thread ef...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efdouble
    Some new shit im gettin up on is this promotion and marketing shit. That gets you cheap or free distrubtion.

    A lot of people don't really no what distrubtion is but what it actually is its when you get your music in a store. Depending on your distrubtion you will get a whole shelf with pictures and shit kinda like when you go to sam goody and they have tha displays for certain artist. You gotta pay major money for that shit and to have your album sitting on tha shelf. You have to also have a strong enough buzz that when you put it out *****s gonna go to those stores and get em cause they will take your shit off tha shelf if its not selling. Because to music stores your space on da shelf can be another album that is moving crazy units, some old school jay-z or somethin that is still selling.

    When it comes to distrubtion you gotta get your fans up hard heavy in a major way. You have to do a whole bunch of shows my advice is fuck talent shows do your own shit. pay your city to rent out a park. Have a cook out you can rent a stage get speakers and rock charge *****s 5 dollars to get in. Have drinks food charge for that shit but rock da show. Have a good time you will get hot locally if you continue to do shit like that frequently

    then drop your albums in tha winter when u can't do shows cause its cold. Thats when you fuck wit tha open mic shits in different towns and shit. Your buzz has to be to the point *****s is talking about you before you even consider distrubtion so if you wanna make money off your projects without that you gotta be on da street harrrrrd

    flyers posters t-shirts mixtapes all sorts of em da net stickers cards websites contacts everything its a fucking grind doggies

    another way to get ya shit so people will buy it every radio station has something like a local spotlight go to a studio pay for the time do a track that u think is radio friendly then get it on there....keep trying till they finally put it on.....if u smash that people are gonna get curious and wanna know more about u
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    Also make sure you can handle people....running a label is like customer service in a way, and you got to know how to keep your people happy, at least until you get your money....

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    im sorry i was away but here is the info you will need when your lable is off of the ground and your making more money then just you and your few friends can handle

    depending how hands on you are with your business you will need to have the steps to your operation down to a science..what artist does what who goes here flyers for this that cards stickers all of that...yes you will need to hire people because if it is just more then one person it becomes harder to pay special attention to 1 persons problems you will need 1 person when their job is your problems you feel me.

    As for managers you will need that in a team...like 3 or 5 people managing your acts. Mangers are only promoters they get you gigs they talk money and help u decide the best moves to take. So the more knowledge u got from that standpoint will be the more popular u are...so when ur lable is big and you have more then one artist u will need a team of people to be in control of their actual carrer and what it is that they doin like where do they perform where do they go next how much they get paid where are they staying all of that is your manager

    you are going to need to rent out a space where you can run your lable like a office area..doesn't have to be nice but it should have a studio and a place where if need be you can get down to business...

    when it all jumps off thats when u spend the must money because you have to start reaching out to other people thats why when u grindin u build relationships with people because its not going to be easy to find people to trust

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