Marijuana legalization on 2010 ballot

Obama said, legalization isnt even in his vocabulary right now, so naw I dont think its gonna happen in this term maybe in the second!!!!!

2nd term... taxes are already slated to rise above 50% of our incomes in 39 of the 50 states, why do you all want more of him.

But yeah, legalizing trees is fine wit me regardless who does it.

lmao

It's cool that they legalize it it was about time

Regardless what past Presidents have done (which is irrelevant to me because I've only paid taxes under the past 3 now), it doesn't make it "okay" to take more of our money. Why would any sane person argue that it's okay to have more of their money taken by the government? Isn't a third enough? When my check says $4000 and I bring home $2800, that angers me as is.

In a time when we all need more in our pockets and small-moderate businesses need more capital to expand and hire additional workers, we have a President who is bent on taking more of what we earn and placing it the hands of special interests and those who haven't earned SHIT. It's ridiculous, and the sheep-herd following Obama has is being replaced by more thinking individuals everyday.

Why do you think he wants to RAM government health down our throats before anyone can read it? The more people read it, the more they will hate the bill. Do you really want your choice to choose an insurance plan stripped from you? Do you really want beaurocrats deciding if your life is valuable enough for the procedure that a DOCTOR tells you is needed? How is this not alarming you all who are in the States?

Here's an idea... during the biggest economic downturn in decades, let's spend trillions more and tax our citizens more! That should fix everything!

WAKE UP.

anyway back to the topic, yeah, legalizing trees would make me like Obama just a tad more, and allow me to smoke away the sorrow left by my raped paycheck.

Well if you want to go onto this tangent, I'd make one simple request of you:
STOP USING ANYTHING PAID FOR BY TAX DOLLARS. I'm not horribly uncomfortable with taxes, I don't love them, but I do use roads. And I can realize that takes money to build and maintain. And one day I'll be using Social Security, Medicare....

It reminds me of when I went to an April 15 "Tea" party () and one person had a sign saying "Jeezus only asks for 10%, why can't government?" Well Jeezus don't have operating costs.

You quite frankly have no understanding of the investment made by the government to financial institutions; it was not money GIVEN, it was debt BOUGHT, on which two interest payments have already been made and tens of billions have been paid back. And none of it came out of your pocket, it came from the powers of the Federal Reserve which is a whole different topic entirely.

There have been no tax increases for those making under $250,000 a year. Do you make that? All Obama has done is LET THE BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE, and add a whole 1% for those who are in the top bracket.

All you're doing is spouting off talking points on completely unrelated topics. You haven't read the 1017 page healthcare bill, I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T, I have over the past few days. I think you'd be surprised by how WEAK it is compared to what most people want and is NOTHING compared to what most of the developed world has, a real right to healthcare.

WAKE UP.

There are alot of factual holes in your post. I'll start from the top.

First, of course taxes are necessary for the things you state, I understand that. Please understand that there is a divide between such things as roads, infrastructure, etc, and the growing of the welfare state. Regarding the 1% increase on the "rich". The top 10% of all wage earners in the US already carry 90% of taxes paid to the Fed. Isn't that enough? If incentive to be successful keeps getting harassed, the rich will just leave and companies will continue to fold and outsource jobs.

This $1 trillion healthcare "reform", as they call it, is nothing more than a another takeover of sorts, this time of our personal freedom to buy private medical coverage. I actually have read some of the bill, thanks...

The public option won't be an option for many, but rather a mandate for buying government care. A free people should be outraged at this advance of soft tyranny. Washington does not have the constitutional or moral authority to outlaw private markets in which parties voluntarily participate. It shouldn't be killing business opportunities, or limiting choices, or legislating major changes in Americans' lives. That's what this bill does, it's not rocket science.

And regarding the financial institutions, the money was most certainly GIVEN to those institutions, with the main goal being to pump up their quarterly earnings reports. Look that one up please.

It comes down to small businesses, and this administration will continue to destroy them with Cap and Trade, which is nothing more than a tax on life itself.

Obama said, "I will eliminate earmarks" - HE THEN SIGNED A "STIMULUS" WITH 9000 OF THEM.

He said, "Unemployment will not rise above 8%"- ITS AT 9.5%.

And he's weak on foreign policy, North Korea is going to do whatever they want and laugh at the UN. Weakness invites war and the lies will continue.

The top 10% actually pay about 54% of tax revenue, using real Congressional Budget Office numbers. They also control the vast majority of the wealth in this country. It's still 40% at the very top rate - and that assumes they don't have a badass accountant that knows the law. Considering the massive tax loopholes and subsidies for corporations, we've had a REVERSE WELFARE state since Reagan.

I can't convince you that the healthcare bill is not in fact a canard to install the infamous "Canadian style healthcare", so we'll agree to disagreee. I'll just say that I DO WANT GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE FOR EVERYONE. And this bill doesn't deliver it.

On whether or not the government "gave" money to financial institutions, go read up on the term "preferred stock" and get back at me. The money is a LIABILITY on the companies' balance sheets - NOT helping to "pump up" their earnings reports.

The stimulus is not filled with earmarks because the bill was designed as a project spending bill. You can't have earmarks in something that is specifically designed to spend money on projects.

The President did not state that, as you quote, "unemployment will not rise above 8%". The projections, on a chart that Treasury Secy. Geithner took into Congress, stated that they anticipated nothing above 8%. Well, that was at the very beginning of the year. We've now got two of the "Big Three" car companies bankrupt, a real estate crash, massive commercial vacancies. It's the end of an asset bubble that Bush began, and it's a recession now, so spare me the unemployment crap.

"Weakness invites war" - no, the Bushmen invite war and that was the same rationale he used then.

thanks for your thoughts.

Healthcare is not a "right", it's something everyone needs to worry about for him or herself. If healthcare is a right, shouldn't housing be a right too? Is the govt supposed to provide everything for us from cradle to grave? Is that your utopia?

The fundamental difference between me and you is that you view government as the solution. I view government as a necessary evil, much like the founders of this country did. They incorporated States' rights and the Right to bear arms into our Bill of Rights to counter tyranny the federal govt could possibly exert over citizens in the future, should it become too powerful and oppressive. Government is not the solution to your issues, YOU ARE. If people would realize this and stop asking for handouts, we'd all be much better off.

Fine, insure the bums, the poor, okay great I understand thats the way it is. But dont fuck with the successful man or woman's free choice to select what THEY believe is best for them. This puppet we have now is the same as Bush, working for private interests, ironically enough, WALL STREET.

His entire cabinet and then some are WALL STREET. This tres sec you speak of (i wont sayt his name) was the top lobbyist for Goldman-Sachs, who has recieved $12.9 billion of the so-called stimulus funds. HMMM... remember those campaign promises? No more special interests in WASH.... we will work for Main St.... yeah, okay, he's an agent for the poor, and is causing trickle-up poverty. There's a term to look up.

"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1787

im scared if they legalize this shit, out in mass where im @ u could Ride with a Zip (ounce) and as long as it doesnt look like intent to distribute then its 100$ fine. now if they legalize it.... and start selling it there gonna have the best fucking bud cause there gonna have scientists and plant developers who went to school for this shit growing this shit on some state of the art shit...Wich will take money out of the Regular dude on the corner movin bud pockets wich is corny to me.

as that other dude said...Either way ile still be in the stu with my goons Rollin up

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Wow...sounds like a few people here need to roll up...


As for the weed...I think the best we'll see in our time is possibly decriminalization. It would still be "illegal", but instead of going to jail you'd have a parking ticket-like fine.

Its definately better than jail, and obviously youd only have to pay the fine if you got caught with it...


Doesnt really matter, if this country (as a whole) keeps going in the direction it is I may very well be moving to Amsterdam anyway. No worries there...