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    Default Question About Panning.....

    ok...so, what are the basics of panning, what is it used for when mixing, i do it, but i think i would be more effective if i knew exactly what its all about, as basic as the concept of panning might be.

    if i throw all da sounds into their own mixer channels how do i know what to pan left n right? n how far left n right to go?

    the way i used to do it was throw all the hi hats, snares, claps n other high sounds onto one side to different degrees, n throw all da other low ones onto the other side, while keepin the main sounds in the center like da bass, lead sounds n chorus sounds. then i tried learnin more online n ppl said all types of diff shit. i know dis might be sum simple ass shit but fuck it, never thought it was all dat important at first

    how do yall do it?

    p.s. i've used the mixers in FL6 n up if that helps to explain it

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    idk man, i use acid pro 6 n i just started doing all that panning stuff,
    all i do is soft pan the high hats and snares and claps, and keep the main sounds centered
    but then i will pan non-main sounds to a place where i like it to be played in my headphones
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    Default Re: Question About Panning.....

    It's really just a try and see how it sounds kind of deal. Generally I hear a lot of people saying certain things should stay in the center i.e. kicks, bass, possibly snare. However I layer drum sounds so when I do that I'll sometimes pan a kick sound when added to another sound.

    Panning is good (especially when mixed with equing) to help make things fit in the mix. I know Timbaland does a lot with panning in his beats, usually with high hats and percussions

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    A lesson I learned early is never fully pan an important instrument that brings the song out on just one side....Why? Well because not everything that music is played back through is stereo, there's a lot out there that will play just a mono left or right with one speaker so when you listen that nice piano melody isn't there, because it was on the apposing side. I generally think its better to not pan so hard. That's my preference.

    You can pan kicks and bass nothings stopping you its not a solid rule, but you don't want an unnatural lopsided mix and its safer to just keep them center. Try panning them hard then listen to it in headphones you'll see what I mean. Even though you pan things left, right, center etc you still want to create balance.

    Dont be afraid to use automation, sometimes you can get a mix just right until you introduce a new instrument into the song. Its like ear candy depending how you use it. Most people would prefer a panned track where you can hear the instruments in their own place. Panning most importantly creates space. Everything dead smack in the center will create clutter in the song. You would need to utilize the Eq and filters more. When you become fond of your mix altogether check them in mono to make sure sounds good and uncluttered for listeners with mono playback devices.

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    interesting...good info everybody i dont ever pan too hard left or right, honestly nothin more than like a 45 degree angle or around there sumwhere.

    i once heard when laying vocals u leave the main vocal track in the center and if (again, only IF) u overdub ur vocals pan one track hard left and record another overdub track and pan it hard right....of course lowering the volumes so they stand behind the main vocal track. that sound about right to anyone? i would test it out myself but cant do no recording at the moment.....

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    Default Re: Question About Panning.....

    Panning is to create perception of reality. Basically meaning to make the track seem like its being played right in front of me or I'm the one playing it. Panning also double to bring out more depth in your music. Think of panning as video games; when you leave everything in the center it like playing an 8-bit game on Nintendo with no depth to it. When you pan shit out it becomes more like that 3D COD your playing on your PS3.

    There are no set rules to panning or mixing and never will be. Basically when I do drums I either try to make it seem as I'm playing them or I'm at a concert watching someone play em. Sounds a little weird how it goes hand in hand with panning right? Picture a drummer, drumming. The hi-hat is left to the drummer while the snare is a little to his closer to the right but still left of the drummer, the two rack toms are slightly left and right, the kick is in the middle, the floor tom is farther right, and the cymbals farthest to left and right. Adjust those some what accordingly and you'll hear it accordingly to the drummer as he plays. Flip it the opposite and thats what the listener at a concert would hear it like.

    Panning also like I said gives depth. If I have a bass and kick both centered they can step on each others frequencies. Panning one a little to the left and the other a little to the right would relieve some of that phase. Same like with you said main vocals and overdubs (ad libs included). You don't want the same frequencies to straight overlap it that won't sound too good in most cases. Even panning the vocals slightly left and right would open up depth to the listener.

    These are just a few little examples of what panning can do for you. Panning is a huge important part of mixing and shouldn't be ignored even just mixing a beat. Take some mainstream tracks and/or beats and pop in some split headphones like iPod ones or the $10 Skull Candies and listen to one side at a time and see what you hear more of one one side than the other or if you hear something thats completely missing in the other. It's truly amazing how you don't really pay attention to the panning until you actually look for it.

    Try seriously thinking about depth of perception and pan accordingly in one of your beats and listen to em like I just said with your beats. One with everything panned and one with everything in the center and see the difference. Hope this helps you.
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    Default Re: Question About Panning.....

    dyamn lethal that put a real good perspective in my head with the layout of a drum set.....thanks for takin the time to explain that, really got ur message thru!

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    No problem, glad I could help you! Good luck!
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