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    Okay so if you have mastered the art of virtual dj and basic blending im sure you are starting to get board with just matching the acapella to the beat and calling that a blend.

    Im sure some of you are wondering what is next, wondering different ways to mix and if it is possible for you to bring a different flavor to your mixxes. Well their is!! warning i am going to try to break it down as much as i can without having to actually make blends but if i do have to make a teacher blend i will

    first I will talk about concepts...Once you get beat matching perfect you need to start coming up with concepts and stay away from da shit that just sounds good together. And all that means is try to use shit that shares the same concept or idea

    example...if you are remixing lloyd banks on fire and you want to add a jayz verse to it..try to pick a jayz song that is sharing the same club party vibe as the banks so so the verses actually sound like they could have been made on a real song u feel me?

    As far as selecting the beats the same thing applies...you cant take a hyped up song like 50 cent Get up then mix it on some r&b shit that just doesn't even sound right and most of the time when that song comes on people want to bounce around not slow dance lol thats pretty much all i can say about concepts exspect for try to stay away with mixing an artist on their own beats cause that is defeating the purpuse of blending...only time that make since is if you are making lets say a Gunit mixtape..and you like mix young buck or the game on a gunit beat or you reverse the artist like putting a banks song on a yayo beat...still a bit lazy and cheesy but it makes a lot more since then mixing 50 cent on a 50 beat..

    Next thing and prolly the most important is your transitions may it be from rapper to rapper or beat to beat..it has to be clean and you have to be able to jus glide from one to tha next without fucking with tha flow of tha listener honestly all you need to pay attention to when it comes to this is the down beat!!

    the down beat is your friend..do you not no what tha down beat is? Quick lesson most hip-hop music is done in 4X4 time you can count it yourself KICK SNARE KICK SNARE...Snares are snaps and claps these days but you no what i mean. Tha down beat is normally tha 1st beat and that is a kick...easier way of putting it..when tha beat loops around that is your down beat and that is tha point where you normally want to bring in tha next rapper or tha next beat...

    this is when it gets a lil complicated you have to cue all your instrumentals up to tha down beat so when u press that cue it is perfect! you should try it for a second...load a pella your familure with as well as an instrumental your familure with that have matching BPMS or sync them either way and run tha pella then drop tha instrumental after a acapella intro practice doing this as well as dropping tha pella on the right part of the beat

    once you get the basics of transitions down you can get creative like scratching tha beat in or looping it then dropping it your options are limitless but you have to learn to feel your way around the beat and no when ur on and off beat

    Scratching on Virtual DJ is only hard if you do not no the basic concepts of scratching and this i can't teach you all i can tell you is you control your cross fader with page up and page down and you use your mouse to rub the record...now how u cut and scratch is all on you but here is a video on youtube where a dude is cutting it up on virtual dj take from it what you will

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N_AEqAlfFw]YouTube - Dj Sasha - Scratch on Virtual Dj Turntable[/ame]

    here is a detailed tutorial

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AIzXYQ0lwI]YouTube - virtual DJ scratch tutorial[/ame]

    Now you may be like okay Ef thats all fine and good but how do i do all of this in one sitting on virtual DJ. I only have 2 decks and that is hardly enough to switch tha beat tha rapper and all that shit....yes you are right so you should get CDJs lol nah im joking their is a way around this it just takes longer and a lot more patience on your part

    you just have to record in sections for example if i had to make my keri hilson turnin me on mix this way (could be found on my myspace)

    id do tha intro first record it
    then do lil wayne part record it

    then record my first part of keri hilsons part and let tha rest of tha acapella play with no beat on it record that

    then come back and put tha second beat on top of it...that takes a lot more time and mistakes can happen with you saving over your shit if your not careful but this is the way you do transitions and such using virtual dj its the only way i have come up with if someone else has a method please share but i have found it virtually impossible to make a half way decent mix on virtual dj unless you are recording in parts then putting it all together at tha end for your final mix

    this is all i can think of sharing right now if i come up with more i'll edit tha thread if you got questions jus ask but this is da basic shit to get you ready for more advanced mixing on vdj you just have to be brave and try new shit

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    This was very helpful to me, as I'm trying to make the switch from real decks/mixer to all of this digital stuff. One thing I've tried to do is to make my remixes first with a mix program (NCH Mixpad), then try blending those mixes together with VDJ. It's still time consuming, but you're less likely to erase your work. I'm also a little limited becuz you can't match pitch exactly on Mixpad.

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    I'm feeling this,i aint seen that Dj Sasha video in a long ass time.But Ef do got a point as far as concepts go.The key goal is to be on point but unique with it all.And as far as CDJ's go,believe babygirl i'm considering it.Shoulda did it in the first place instead of getting turntables,that you gotta go thru all hell with torque and all this other bullshit.

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    yo these are some real useful tips on blending in virtual dj... rite now im only using wave editors like mixraft audio studio adobe audition but beatmatchng on those programs is a bitch. thats the only problem

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    thats when you train your ear to tune in to the pella and beat.imagine what it would be like to do it on actual hardware lol.When you start out on programs doing mostly sampling elements and such,you usually be able to tell if the key and postion along timing is on point of a mix.Just gotta listen and be patient with it,but also have fun for every day you breathe it is educational valued.

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    yeah and plus syncing perfectly is gonna be hard no matter what you use if you dont inquire the proper bpm. BPMS are god when it comes to djing...-----s can do that ear shit if they want and that is when they run into pitchie ass blends and off bar ass mixxes

    if you want my advice give up anything that was used before CDJs were invented. that means all yall old time ass vynil ass users need to throw them shits out...nobody uses record turn tables no more...when was tha last time u went to tha club and tha dj had like 2 decks mad crates of records and a mic?? dont worry i'll wait

    if you want my advice i say stick to electronics its easier to learn easier to transport when you have shows and a loooot easier to evolve yourself as a dj when using shit that you as tha dj can minipulate...aint too much ill shit u can really do with old school decks exspect for that official ass record sound u aint gonna get that digital but ion no i love cdjs and virtual dj

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    I feel you on that,If i woulda thought right on the 1st batch of equipment i got,then it woulda had been cdjs because i'll admit that i agree with you ef,Turntables are cool and all,but the fucking constant replacing you gotta do and all this other bullshit n torture that comes along with it.But its cool tho.We all gotta start somewhere dont we?Because sooner then later i'ma buy some Cdj's which will be my out and about set,leaving my turntables to be the studio setup.Only thing i can say that saved my ass was when i got the torq connectiv,Despite the software is glitchy and stupid as hell,it always one step forward to learning new things,scratching my vocals up to create new samples along songs and blends without getting that shit pressed to records.But all in due while,Equipment is one thing but its all how you use what you got.I've seen silly ass people on here,djforums.com and pellas4u with them $1k-$3k setups and dont know one damn thing about Djing,mixes sounding like Shit and then have the nerve to say someone elses suck when they dont have a clue of whats going on in the first place,,no form of discipline.But thats pretty much my input for real.Thats one thing you should mention on the radio Ef,talk about them wannabe Djs who aint got no exp nor respect for the art of it,Just a suggestion lol.

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    very helpful thankyou

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