what u think about songs structures

I personally don't think a song needs to fit any particular fuckin' formula(16-bars, or otherwise). Its gunna make a difference how much tha shits gunna get airplay if its long as fuck but, you can write a song with only one hook right in the middle, or no fuckin' hook at all,-it might not be a "Commercial Standard" track but if its lyically sick, an' got a bangin' beat then its gunna get play time on my system. Personally I think fools need to stop with this rhymin' by numbers/spit between the lines/flow from a recipie stlye-followin' directions off a pizza pop box writin'.

Ayo I'm not sayin' there is anything wrong with standard tracks-but every song does not have to be a stylistic, fuckin' clone!

Think outside the motherfuckin' box, You closed minded fools.

Yo Peace!

That are exactly my thoughts, i prefer songs without hooks. The hooks are what make songs boring after listing it 100 times becous when you listen a song a 100 times you heared the hook about 400/500 times...

On most songs i realy, realy like i just cut the hook out so its just lyrics

i used to have problems with getting the write number of bars... not anymore though.

i think for an album there should be a couple, maybe 3 or 4 songs that are standard, by standard i mean

intro (8 bar)
hook (8 or 4 bar)
verse 1 (16 bar)
hook
verse 2
hook
verse 3
hook x2 or one hook and the outro

then the rest should be different formats

i like songs with a shitload of dope mc's goin at it with no chorus (think wu tang)

then you can have a song with two verses maybe 24 bars each


switch it up a little

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Originally Posted by innaspace i think for an album there should be a couple, maybe 3 or 4 songs that are standard, by standard i mean intro (8 bar) hook (8 or 4 bar) verse 1 (16 bar) hook verse 2 hook verse 3 hook x2 or one hook and the outro then the rest should be different formats i like songs with a shitload of dope mc's goin at it with no chorus (think wu tang) then you can have a song with two verses maybe 24 bars each switch it up a little

lol i think i hit thanks by a accident o well

Thats what i usually go by writtin and making the beats but,sometimes

like for a real hard song the hook makes it sound bad like for somthin on a mixtape.But if the verses are fire then the hook makes the song known alot better.

Most niyyaz dont even KNOW HOW to write a 16 bar verse.... Shit, most niyyaz cant even write a song cause they cant read.

Anywayz, I like the 16 bar structure the most, but if its a rap to someone elses beat, than I will just get some homiez and we a flow thru the whole shit like fuck it.

I think that folks say 16 bars is the "formula" because it flows with the changes of the beats and it just sounds better in my opinion.

fuck it, thank me and i thank you back :D

yeah I agree theres no need for hooks but some of ur tracks gotta have them coz not everyone is a real hiphop fan n some peeps need to get a poppy feel to the songs to buy ur shit! example - 50 cent. alll his songs have pop kind hooks n he sings in it.

though the real tracks are the ones which have an original concept. like eminem's stan or guilty conscience... in gc the em n dre did alternating dialogues n still it was played out loads of time!

so basically, DONT STICK TO A FORMULA but its okay to make a song or two like that